Sundar

While your post is eloquent on the mind realm and its patterns of action/reaction I would like to add that for most it is the only realm. That which you refer to as awareness requires the presence of another; the witness. And it is in knowing/discovering the witness that we discover the witnessing awareness and begin to 'observe' mind. Before that we are only mind.

Yes it is ancient and also modern, cognitive and also limited, a great high and the low of all lows. Recognizing and understanding the nature of this 'mind' is what is hardest especially today. And I say that because mind has grown exponentially in the last 100 years. Technology and sceince have begun to wrap it in an ever growing frequency of invincibility and to convince such a mind of frailities is all that much harder. To separate one from its complex antics and convince him/her that real/dynamic/infinite self lies elsewhere( or truthfully speaking in the death and destruction of this mind) is becoming all that harder. The glitz of the mind and its powers are at an all time high today. The vice of its illusions therefore are all the more impenetrable.

Aachi said that the Lord creates the moment of awakening. In the ultimate reality of thigs I would agree. However in the time cycle of karma I would not. The factor of choice given to man makes for the whole play. It is therefore no external Lord who intervenes and if consciousness be metaphoric for the 'Lord' then at an experiential level I find that duality is an endless game of sleeping and becoming comatose in turn. The moments of awakening are peppered generously through all our lives but sleeping is so seductive. So if a generic alarm system could do it I guess wisdom(read calls to awakening) would not need to find its way back in endless cycles of return. It does and it must in ever changing garbs of modernity only with the soul task of 'waking up'. Of placing itself squarely in the field of man's choice and aspiration so he veers towards it with effort and intention. Only then is transcendence worthy to man. When the effort/aspiration/adventure is his/her own.

Too long I think already.
Thanks for your clear thoughts Sundar

thats very beautifully put, jasjit..thank you...on aspects of being awakened...a need felt in mind realms activates mystical connects sometimes...when a master reaches out...maybe it is part of larger karmic cycle, but possibly there could be some "high-level interrupts" to borrow phraseology from computer jargons...

on seeing things within mind spaces, a key may lie in seeing roadblocks in our lives as opportunities for growth.We tend to view roadblocks resentfully and more often than not tend to escape them...they can be great triggers...sometimes , the positionalities we acquire tend to become biblical and sacrosant and inhibit our processes of learning.When it comes to working through interventional processes such as ifhsa, the healing and allied services could be accompanied by inputs on "processes of learning"(maybe it is already happening)...the need for openness as learners and so on...lot of learning, in my opinion requires us to unlearn...to be receptive...i rememeber watching a movie called "Eyes of the beholder" , during my college days...It is part of management exercises on "perception"...served as a great trigger for me...so many such catalytical inputs work for us in our personal spaces....maybe , they can find extension in interventional spaces too..
things are wrong or right only in a personal context...at a different level of viewing..but mind spaces may need their own management and orientation mechanisms in social spaces...

Sundar mate you sound like one of a kind fella!

"but mind spaces may need their own management and orientation mechanisms in social spaces...". are you serious? Like what is the orientation for a social space once you have switched onto some frequency of mind watching or filtering of your own? Doesn't that mean you step out in a Zen kind of way and alter your mind patterns? Then what is the 'orientation' got to do with social spaces anymore? Any focus on external responses dilutes your first premise doesn't it?
Maybe I got you wrong?
BTW Good post!

tx for that feedback, mate...its ok if some find some disagreeable...i operate and express from the platforms of my understandings and experiences...
i see mind spaces coming into play in functional realms...where we need to chose life and living perspectives...but seeing , to me, necessarily happens in realms beyond the mind...and then we use the mind rather than the other way around...as in the conditionalities of the mind using us...