Dear Anusheh,

Thank you for taking us through what Aghora is all about. I had never heard of it before till now. But I'm glad and consider myself to be lucky to get to know about it through someone who has experienced it first hand rather than from tell-tale stories.

I must admit at the begining I was thinking that your conclusion will end with a fantastic sort of note to it.Aapka yeh conclusion pur kar mujhe samajh mein aya hain ki yeh ek bahut hi personal experience tha aapka. And something that one experiences at such a personal level can be most fantastic to that person alone. It is very difficult for others to seek the same in your experience.

But thank you for sharing what you learnt from your experience with the Aghori. Shaayad hum wo feeling nahin mehsoos kar payengey jo apne iss personal experience mein kiya hain par jo message apko isse mila hain wo share karne ke liye Thanks.

The feeling of this oneness yet expansiveness of ones being must be a truly awesome feeling. What can be more true than the feeling of fearlessness, of unboundedness, of moving fully ahead without doubt. What sheer joy this freedom and infinity must bring to one! It is worth the effort!!!

Dear Anusheh,
I am researching on Aghori sect since last month for a Documentary Film and to be true you defined them well.
I would really appreciate if you help me in getting an interview with the Lady Aghori you know.
thanks
parvez
New Delhi
09210001784
hopesaboun@hotmail.com

Dear Parvez n khan

Thank you for your comment. I'm afraid the Aghori I am familiar with is not open to her identity being revealed so I cant help you with that.

Best of luck with your film.

Dear anusheh,
Thanks for the delightful article,Though ar the last it became a bit philosophical.I expected somemore revelarions and suspense.Take care .Bye

Dear Anusheh,
In that case i would prefer any help that can come from your part in getting leads to other Aghori sadhus, where I can get their stories, I am sorry to bother u again but its very important for our film.
thanks
regards
ACE FOCUS PRODUTCIONS
Parvez Khan
New Delhi
09210001784

Hi Anusheh

Have been reading all your articles on Aghora and thinking how fortunate you are for the experiences you write about so eloquently. From where I am in life I feel its all an unusual journey and so obviously Divine Grace. Want to add that in a strange way it has been very reassuring for me personally. So Thank You for sharing and making a difference in my life.

Warm regards

Dear mudra,
Hai this is sayan here,if yu want to discuss things like tantrik aghor etc then yu can doso with me, as this topic is quite close to me.

Dear anusheh,
Did yur teacher prophesised something or did she believe in future prediction?

Hello Sayan,
I am interested in Agori discussionS. I need loads of clarifications about Aghori Sect. Can you be a help. Please send me your email address
THANKS
parvez

Dear Sayan

To the Aghori there is really no division that exists between the future and the present. All is determined by the present. The future is changing and dynamic at every moment with the decisions and actions that you take today. Hence it is accessible immediately and is not bound by time or space.

'The future is changing and dynamic at every moment with the decisions and actions that you take today.'- I totally agree with you Anusheh on this.

Actually if you see Sayan even astrologers to whom we go to have our future predicted give stones, rituals etc etc, whatever it be, as things to wear and do in the present with the hope of affecting the future. Whether they work or not is another argument. But the fact is that yeh sab humare present ko starting point maan kar chalte hain.

Dear anusheh,
Do yu mean to say there is nothing called destiny?

Dear Sayan

I find the word destiny problematic because to most it means a completely randomly selected outcome in life which is completely divorced from your self, your actions, your thoughts, your desires. It is interpreted like this by most of us because we remain trapped in unawareness of karmic lessons and struggles, confused desires and the snares of our neediness. So those who are blind to the pattern of the self/life will of course feel that the universe exists in the same chaos that they do, that it is arbitrary and volatile in what it meets out and will therefore always look to hang their disorderly life onto this rather disempowering hook.

But when you become attentive to the self and its formation and start living with awareness and unravelling the karmic threads that bind you then informed choices create your destiny...in other words destiny is something you control and not the other way around. Life is not a series of haphazard events (even though most of us will experience it that way), It is an extremely scientific and organised discipline, if one opens ones eyes to it.

So yes there is destiny and no there isnt. Yes for those who remain blind and non-existent for those who choose to see.

Dear anusheh,
Thanks fr yur reply,though in many istance maybe wht yur saying holds true,but how qwill yu account fr the fact that one is born in a partricular family,which in turn determines 90% of yur life.Like death forc instance we dontb have any hand in it right,or the person yu will be getting married to.

Dear anusheh,
Thanks fr yur reply,though in many istance maybe wht yur saying holds true,but how qwill yu account fr the fact that one is born in a partricular family,which in turn determines 90% of yur life.Like death forc instance we dontb have any hand in it right,or the person yu will be getting married to.These are some of the things we have no hand on.

Dear Sayan

Who says we dont have have a hand in the way we die, how we die, when we die and even if we die at all. Being born to our parents is also no accident of fate. You have chosen those parents because they serve to bring to you the karmic lessons that you most need in this life. Similarly who you marry will be decided by the same factors.

One has to see life as a continum of energy, and not limited by time, space and body. If you have not made certain choices 'now' then you have made them in a previous birth, and so life moves in an endless rhythm of sowing and reaping.

There are well documented cases today of people (Masters) who have chosen how they will die (I'd rather say leave their physical body). And there are other documented cases of people who have had near death experiences and have returned to tell tales of the journey of consciousness that continues even when the body has breathed its last.

There is much evidence today, more than ever before to show us that life is not limited by time and space and hence neither are our actions. Therefore even though we perceive that we are in a new life (the illusion of birth), we are actually only ever in a process of evolution, carrying our past firmly encoded in our auric fields and resolving it at every moment. The only problem being that we are usually not aware of it.

Dear anusheh,
Being born to our parents is also no accident of fate. You have chosen those parents because they serve to bring to you the karmic lessons that you most need in this life. Similarly who you marry will be decided by the same factors.Thats what i was telling that nobody can deny the aspect of destiny or karma.Yu can say that a person can transcend destiny by right thinking right words etc but that is a different issue altogether.In your piece you have talked about masters ,indeed masters can transcend the calls of karma because of their supernatura,ll power but for leser mortals like us i think we have to suffer or feel joy in the train of life according to our karma.Previously when i was young( i am still young not old) i used to think that life should be fair a person should get whatever he wants but the more matured i became and coming across one or two oculltists in my life i could understand the importance of extraneous variables or karma or destiny whatever be the name you call them.Indeed i have seen people who have stupendous carrers and all,Post Doc from MIT etc but facing tremendous problems in other aspects of life like marriage,relationship with relatives,son etc. So far for today.Bye

Hello Sayan,

I've been following ur discussion with Anusheh on destiny. Often we hear 'What to do this is my destiny.' If we think like this then we are doomed. Aur zada tak log yeh hi karte hain. Most people end up thinking like this.

Destiny is not an external factor. I think it is very very intrinsic factor. It is not something out there but someting that is within you. If this person who you are talking about is having problems with relationship, marriage It is not for reasons that are outside him. I mean saying that external factors are reasons for this would be the easiest way to shrug off responsibility of ones life and ones problems.

There are cases where people born in poor families have made to the top. If they had said that it is my destiny to be poor then I don't think they would have made it big. Because they believed that they can create their destiny that they have succeeded.

If it is our karma which brings us to particular parents, spouses etc. it does not mean that we just continue to be with them without making any efforts to understand and be aware of why they are in our lives. I think what Anusheh is trying to say is that we need to be aware of this fact and work towards moving through these karmic patterns into more evolved selves. Every life time gives you an opportunity to move higher.

To take that opportunity require an awareness which I agree with you many are not able to have. But forums such as these are meant to make those of us who aren't aware fo these patterns become aware and not continue to play the blame game of 'Hai meri phooti kismat!'

Dear Sayan

Firstly there is a distinct difference between the concepts of karma and destiny. Destiny is not rooted necessarily in the understanding of karma. Even more distinct of course is the superfluous ways in which we tend to use these words but enough has been said on that already.

Secondly it is important for all of us to remember that Masters are not born that way their journey is hard and they too were once 'mere mortals'.

Everyone has the power and the ability to live with awareness. The Master is just one who does. What you call supernatural powers are simply the rising of awareness and hence connectivity with the universe and its manifest expressions. They are available to all and sundry. No one is especially configured to become a Master. Everyone is specially configured to be a Master.

Hello simran,
It is not a question of phooti kismator not,it goes much deeper than that and that is to have more experiene in this lifetime,making us evolve n the karmic ladder,as some one rightly experience is what yu get whn yu dont get wht yu wnt.

Dear anusheh,
hnks fr yur answer but yet it cannot be denied that the karmic knots which enmesh our lives in the form of the family,or the condition under which we are born,are incidents which are in accordance withour previous deeds.You often take the example of masters though configured similarly they have developed at least one quality like patience,determination etc,o such a degree that they have reached a super cosmic status.In this quick fix age for an impatient generation like us it is not that easy to develop those qualities.

Dear Sayan,

this 'quick fix', impatient generation is so because of its own will to be that. Whoever decides to step out of the dance can do so instantly. Having said that this generation also has the kind of access to the spiritual and the kind of mind which can also make it move with great speed on the spiritual path. How we perceive ourselves is where the key to our being lies.

The problem as always is the mind and how we dont want to let go of it. There is nothing super cosmic about masters, try and drop that mind which insists on making people who have realised themselves to be some kind of unreachable and incomprehensible power. All is within you and accessible to you, but one can only understand through experience not through debate and discussion.

Bon jour
Anusheh,
Why dont yu write something about the social climate of yur country?

Hi Parvez,

here are two links for you!

www dot sepiamutiny dot com/sepia/archives/002767 dot html

www dot tampatrib dot com/News/MGAFVFIZFGD dot html

here are some excerpts:

Aghori ascetics believe that by consuming human flesh, they can break the cycle of life and death and avoid reincarnation, according to a description by the British St. Martin's College Religion Department.

Aghoris typically live at cremation grounds, smear themselves with the ashes of corpses and eat from a cranial begging bowl, the top part of a human skull. Some Aghoris eat the flesh of corpses only rarely. They meditate by sitting on the corpses, believing they gain control over the corpse's spirit.

Within the caste system of India, traditionally only the lower castes handle the dead. Nathan said Aghora is a primitive form of spiritualism, closer to tribal religions.

``This is a deviant ritual that has nothing to do with mainstream Hinduism,'' Nathan said. ``Nonviolence is how you find freedom from the circle of birth and death. Eating human flesh is nowhere close to attaining that freedom.''

Historical records kept by the British indicate Aghoris have long been accused of practicing human sacrifice because sacrifice was a part of cults that worshiped Kali.

Dear raj,
Yhanks for the link.

Very unusual site in the subjects u choose. Refreshing and readable. Am understanding Tantra (which BTW I know little about but find fascinating)quite differently through ur posts Anusheh (I mean from my idea of it) and thoroughly enjoying ur account too.

Good going :D